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|  | London Tube Shooting -Secret Files Leaked
« Thread Started on Aug 17, 2005, 2:26am » | |
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ITV News has obtained secret documents and photographs that detail why police shot Jean Charles De Menezes dead on the tube.
The Brazilian electrician was killed by police on 22 July in London as he boarded a tube.
The crucial mistake that ultimately led to his death was made at 9.30am when Jean Charles left his flat in Scotia Road, South London.
Surveillance officers wrongly believed he could have been Hussain Osman, one of the prime suspects, or another terrorist suspect.
By 10am that morning, elite firearms officers were provided with what they describe as "positive identification" and shot De Menezes eight times in the head and upper body.
The documents and photographs confirm that Jean Charles was not carrying any bags, and was wearing a denim jacket, not a bulky winter coat, as had previously been claimed.
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/did-police-lie-about-stakeout-on.html
He was behaving normally, and did not vault the barriers, even stopping to pick up a free newspaper.
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/police-admit-brazilian-did-not-jump.html
He started running when we saw a tube at the platform. Police had agreed they would shoot a suspect if he ran.
A document describes CCTV footage, which shows Mr de Menezes entered Stockwell station at a "normal walking pace" and descended slowly on an escalator.
The document said: "At some point near the bottom he is seen to run across the concourse and enter the carriage before sitting in an available seat.
"Almost simultaneously armed officers were provided with positive identification."
A member of the surveillance team is quoted in the report. He said: "I heard shouting which included the word `police' and turned to face the male in the denim jacket.
"He immediately stood up and advanced towards me and the CO19 officers. I grabbed the male in the denim jacket by wrapping both my arms around his torso, pinning his arms to his side.
"I then pushed him back on to the seat where he had been previously sitting. I then heard a gun shot very close to my left ear and was dragged away onto the floor of the carriage."
The report also said a post mortem examination showed Mr de Menezes was shot seven times in the head and once in the shoulder, but three other bullets missed, with the casings left lying in the tube carriage.
Police have declined to comment while the mistaken killing is still being investigated.
http://www.itv.com/news/index_1677571.html
BreakForNews Comment:
So where does this leave Mr. Mark Whitby's story? If you remember Mark Whitby is the guy who claimed he was sitting on the train when the incident happened.
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/did-police-lie-about-stakeout-on.html
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| | Re: London Tube Shooting -Secret Files Leaked
« Reply #1 on Aug 18, 2005, 1:41pm » | |
Don't you just love these two women Gareth Peirce and Harriet Wistrich yippee I went to the same school as Harriet and my kids go there so they must be getting a good education! But I digress I sent this letter out to the main stream media today:
Now that some of the facts are emerging into the events that led to the assassination of Jean Charles de Menezes, we can start to ask similar questions about the events in London on the 7th and 21st July.
The paucity of evidence from 7th July, one CCTV image from Luton station and supposed discovery of personal documents at all of the sites, has been allowed to go unchallenged by the main stream media.
I have had a fruitless search for any further evidence, such as, what times did these trains leave Kings Cross? One small simple fact that would have aided in any genuine investigation and appeal for witnesses.
Was it just a coincidence that Peter Power of Visor Consultants conducted a security drill using those exact locations on the morning of 7th July (Radio 5 live). I have seen no interviews asking him about this, yet he has appeared at least twice on BBC's Newsnight to offer up his opinion on locking up suspects without charge for up to 3 months. Why?
If lies have been told about one event why should we believe anything else that we have been told? Just to remind those in power, you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time.
We need to start asking these questions,
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| | Re: London Tube Shooting -Secret Files Leaked
« Reply #2 on Aug 19, 2005, 1:04am » | |
Hi Prole,
I have done some searching to discover if there is any information out there about the time the train left the station and, although I am sure you have already read this from the BBC site, thought I would post it here:
Even more people got on at Kings Cross. It felt like the most crowded train ever. Then, as we left Kings Cross, at about 8.55am, there was an almighty bang.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4670099.stm#thursday
This is from a dairy of a woman who was apparently on the tube coming from Finsbury Park.
It's worth looking at everything in search for clues.
More if I find anything.
Kathy
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